Is There a Need for More Utopian Art?

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Having kids just makes you such an optimist, it just inherently makes you want to be an optimist so bad that like... I feel like a more responsibility to make more optimistic things. If we don't ideate about futures that could be good, we won't be able to get them. It's like, as we said earlier, life imitates art. Life really does imitate art. And so we really need more Protopian or Utopian art. This is incredibly essential for the future of humanity.

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(00:00) – Introduction
(08:24) – Identity
(12:22) – Music production
(25:13) – Spotify
(29:55) – Experimental music
(32:30) – Vision of future
(45:04) – Motherhood
(1:01:11) – Consciousness
(1:16:01) – Love
(1:21:52) – Metaverse
(1:34:34) – Technology and bureaucracy
(1:38:32) – Mortality
(1:46:57) – Understanding evil
(1:50:55) – Last person on Earth
(1:53:33) – Dan Carlin
(1:56:03) – Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
(2:02:28) – Coolest human invention
(2:03:49) – Advice for young people
(2:07:01) – Meaning of life