Berman and the Cartesian Legacy

David Frum: I think the trail that led me to Berman was Gregory Bateson, took a deep dive into steps to an ecology of mind many years ago. And then where I clicked with it most was as Dave was saying, some of the right key and work throughout it as well. In terms of how it factors into things at this point, man, I think it just does such a good job encapsulating the fundamental skitsoid problem that we're dealing with culturally, societally.

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