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The executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation on government surveillance, Elon Musk, and free speech
Decoder with Nilay Patel
How to Build a Politically Effective Organization?
"I buy you on trust. I just feel like right now in this world, people are looking for something they can trust," he says. "If you want an organization that wavers in the wind of politics, then, you know, find somebody else other than the effet."
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