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Creating Agile Organizations with Cesario Ramos
Agile Uprising Podcast
Copy and Paste Scaling and Copy Paste Scrum
Sally Kohn: I learned the hard way that even if you have the board support for this, if the people do not feel ownership for it, then it's very unlikely that you succeed. Even if you succeed in the first, let's say six to eight to 12 months, if you come back a year later, which I did, much, much of the change is back as reverted and has been done. So actually, I learned that very, very hard by making these mistakes. We talk about a concept of volunteering. If most of the people are truly feeling, well, I want to try this out. I think it's worth the risk. And I'm volunteering to
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