The knock on the sector as been that it's highly cyclical. The stocks tend to look optically cheap at the worst potential times. What is it that in this particular end market, within transports, could potentially be clar verses historical siclocality of the businesses? Ye, i think cost structure is the answer here. That's the one secular change that can happen where historically we think of these as capital intensive, high fixed cost businesses,. There's a lot of labor that goes into this as well.

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