Follow Politics Like It's a Form of Entertainment

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We allow ourselves to root for murderers, bank robbers and torturers when we see them on the screen so long as it's been clear that they're our hero or our anti-hero. We forgive all sorts of behaviors that we would say should put you in jail never mind make you a pariah. The problem is that when you start following politics like it's a form of entertainment, you start the sort of tribal mind kind of takes over," he says.

Sam Harris speaks with Jonah Goldberg about the state of American politics and civil society. They discuss the hyperpartisanship of the Left and Right, what Trump has done to the Republican party, the breakdown of trust in institutions, the “new catastrophism” enabled by social media, the problem of populism, and other topics.

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