I work with people who hold bodies of knowledge that have not necessarily made it into the official scientific body of knowledge. I'm interested in that sort of border between those two things and do you know when you're hitting on something is there something that happens in the making where you know right yes this is it this is that right balance. And of course there's this really intriguing element of your research which is on the one hand based on facts so you talk about you social insects but the key thing is that you merge those facts with speculation. So just an example to explain a bit about the community of people I'm talking to and working with but specifically for this project he was traveling in the bush

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