i feel like t each of these cases ar sort of a dialectic. We're saying, hay, there's tha thing that looks the same in facism and democratic propaganda. But actually there's this other differ somewhere in there that distinguishes between the two. And i think the difference is agency. You know, mahele's really a really interesting casehe talks about people who have extraordinary agency in training. Drowning is a totally immersive experience. You may not be breathing, but you are fully, totally, every part of your body engaged in experiencing drowning. Swimming, you are also in the water, but you have skills thathave been trained into you. You are in

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