It's almost as if we're sitting across the table from each other, right? Yeah, it works really well. So we found it to be exceptionally good. Yes, I do think having the visual interaction is important like video calls and then periodically these actual get-togethers, right? Yes, through retreats. And when it comes to the retreats, we've done those since the early days. It's like twice a year. That energy levels through the roof, everyone's really excited to see each other.