"I like to end these podcasts with challenges for people, because I want someone to take the stuff that they learned in this episode and actually do something with it from their real life," he says. "So on that note, do you have a challenge we can leave people with? Just go to a neighbor's house and ask to have dinner with them." He adds: "It's not just about listening to something online or connecting with people online. That could be cool... And there's a huge benefit to that ... But take that and then turn it to action!"

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