# 574 - Peter Atencio & Cale Boyter (The Machine Director/Producer)
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How to Succeed as a Moviemaker
"When you make a movie I'm a small part of it and that's a beautiful thing about making movies as you know when they succeed," he says. "It's not ever one thing you know so but I'm not bad only because I've done it before and I've made a lot of mistakes and figuring out what matters on that given day yeah It's interesting it's cool doing stuff with people that have done stuff yeahBecause that's the number one thing, right? When Leanne we started upscaling our business and hiring necessities of like what what do you need it's really interesting."
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