Presidential historian and former Bush administration official Tevi Troy discusses his new book, "The Power and the Money: The Epic Clashes Between Commanders in Chief and Titans of Industry."

Troy explores the complex relationship between CEOs and presidents throughout presidential history—from historical examples like John D. Rockefeller to modern tech leaders like Mark Zuckerberg.

The evolving role of business leaders in politics is already evident in President Donald Trump's second term, most notably with Elon Musk shaping policy and directing DOGE's efforts to streamline government.

Troy examines how CEOs must navigate Washington's corridors of power while balancing corporate interests and political pressures. The conversation also covers pressing issues like AI regulation, tariffs, and the shifting landscape of corporate America's stance on social issues.

Listen to the full conversation on this special interview edition of "The Daily Signal Podcast."

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