For me mass music making is in a sense the ideal of human existence it shows what we're capable of as a group of people yes you can build a cathedral whatever as a group but when you people come together and make music that's transcendent it shows the potential of the human being effectively. I'm not a musician I can't play any instruments so anyone that can I'm always slightly amazed by that talent. Cover versions are very interesting because they show what's possible that change is possible, reinterpretation about being resourceful all those things that human beings are and it's about changes in society and so on. So for me I really love cover versions because I speak of so much

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