You told us that meditation is not about changing the content of conscious experience. Could you tell us why psychedelics can be useful? I've been part of a clinical trial three doses of MDMA which certainly altered my the the quality of my conscious experience in ways that led to a lot of lasting and at least for me valuable learningYeah so what are your thoughts about psychedelics in terms of how they intersect with the discussion that we've been having and what utility do they play in recognition of the self or in other sorts of brain changes well yeah let's just price in all those caveats that people can anticipate these drugs are not without their risks but this we're talking about you safely and responsibly age appropriate

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