Outro

Jim and Jeff visit with their friends Katy, Amanda, and Marcie at Winterfell (aka Stevens Point, WI) to talk about why the 49ers will beat the Chiefs, why the Chiefs will beat the 49ers, how they got into the IAM space, and what they wish the business knew about IAM.

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