Design Matters with Debbie Millman cover image

Best of Design Matters: Rickie Lee Jones

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

00:00

You've Been Sober for Decades, and You're Recovered and Whole

You've been sober for decades now. How do you make sense? Ye, i can. We do it with women in all things. We assign a moral code to them that we don't men to. And it's sad, because that dubiousness is creating careers. You know, it's very hard now to have a career if you won't sell yourself sexually. So that's a little discouraging. All the songs are music and lyrics by rickely jones, for the most part. 30 or forty nameso i don't even know how that is possible.

Transcript
Play full episode

The AI-powered Podcast Player

Save insights by tapping your headphones, chat with episodes, discover the best highlights - and more!
App store bannerPlay store banner
Get the app