Everyday Is Like 9-11

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"You are being measured, you are, and measured according to someone else's standard. And we won't even begin to talk about whether one standard is better than the other because it isn't," she says. "It's just different."

Greg interviews Dr. Dean Helen Easterling Williams, Pepperdine University Graduate School of Education and Psychology. In an upfront and candid conversation, Greg and Dean Williams explore the difference in their experiences as academics, leaders, and human beings. Dean Williams' perspective as a black woman, academic, and leader on everything going on in America, and how to most effectively move forward and make change, is a conversation you will not want to miss.

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