The Backfire of the Occult

Andrew said he went into the occult it was a thalama Or thalema however you pronounce it because he wanted to see wanted to encounter the supernatural. And he did and it backfired he said I was like trying to figure out what what death really was by playing with a loaded gun Like that's the good analogy for a great analogy. Yeah How were you able to land some of these interviews and and you know Learn what you did along the way for this second book now.