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"I consider myself a successful person": artisanal Afghanistan w/ Madina Matin

The East is a Podcast

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I'm Wrapping Up in a Patu and Drinking Tea and Looking at My Sheep

"I'm still waiting for those interviews with the sheep. I'm trying to convince them, but you know, they're not big on media," she says. "It's a little bit of connection between two shepherds who don't even know that the other one exists."

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