Liberalism Has to Be Illiberal to Preserve Itself

John Avlon: I think the really difficult thing about liberalism is that liberalism has to be illiberal to preserve itself. If you have a hundred percent open borders, it will fall apart,. And why? Think of the example of the evolutionary stable strategy with which we started this conversation. What happens when you open a liberal society's borders to anybody? Too many people who will exploit it come in and they do exploit it; it breaks apart and fails.Avlon: The only way you can preserve liberalism is to have this attitude. We're the best fucking civilization that's ever existed. Now every civilization thinks that and that's fine. But I want ours to think that too and we're