The Battle of Vermaty, Lafe: A Brief History

I think first of all, you saw a lot of transactional leadership. And I would say, when I play golf with my friend Chuck and I hit the ball over the hill and there's water down there, I'll say, Chuck, do you think I went into water? You go, sir, too close to call. When someone say, how's that going to end up? And I'd go too close to calling. The Kurds and the Iraqis could screw up anything. But culturally, they can't take the win, you know.