I didn't like the saturation of information. And I didn't like how that we're interacting with it. We need stories. We need creation. There's an emergence that happens that's much beyond just the facts. It's this entire combination that then goes and presents policy recommendations based on this collective action. For me, it's not by opening a store and selling products and making products. It's by doing all of that with the perspective through art and creation," he says.

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