It's a very hard conundrum that I do not have an answer for because you kind of judged on your reputation and then the people like all detractors. HubSpot is now 17 years old so it's been a while time flies and they grew up so quickly. And our kind of primary offering is we offer a CRM platform so consists of marketing sales service software operations everything you need to kind of manage your go to market and manage your relationship with your customers as a pure SaaS product.

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