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Episode 273: Zoe Chace

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How Do You Find Alex?

The story with alex was that it was kind of a way of rebelling against his parents, who were pretty homophobic and had really put alex through a lot when they figured out he was gay. Alex just showed me the way trump can make you feel so powerful when you're not very powerful - which for alex was like being a high school gay kid. And i didn't really see that until alex, then that became the story. You know, days and daysand and lots of tape in, you finally find the story. That only happens when you're in a situation that's so profoundly interesting that every turn that it takes is the story and making the story better

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