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In part one of this two-part episode on The DevOpsHandbook, Second Edition, Gene Kim speaks with coauthors Patrick Debois and John Willis about the past, present, and future of DevOps. By sharing their personal stories and experiences, Kim, Debois, and Willis discuss the scenius that inspired the book, and why and how the DevOps movement took hold around the world.
They also examine the updated content in the book, including new case studies, updated metrics, and practices. Finally, they each share the new lessons they have learned since writing the handbook and the future challenges they think DevOps professionals need to solve for the future.
Kim will conclude the series in Part 2, where he interviews the remaining two coauthors, Jez Humble and Dr. Nicole Forsgren.
ABOUT THE GUEST(S)
Patrick Debois is considered to be the godfather of the DevOps movement after he coined the term DevOps accidentally in 2008. Through his work, he creates synergies projects and operations by using Agile techniques in development, project management, and system administration. He has worked in several companies such as Atlassian, Zender, and VRT Media Lab. Currently, he is a Labs Researcher at Synk and an independent IT consultant.
John Willis an author and Senior Director of the Global Transformation Office at Red Hat.. He has been an active force in the IT management industry for over 35 years. Willis’ experience includes being the Director of Ecosystem Development at Docker, the VP of Solutions for Socketplane, the VP of Training and Services at Opscode. He also founded Gulf Breeze Software, an award-winning IBM business partner, which specializes in deploying Tivoli technology for the enterprise.
Patrick DeBois and John Willis are two of five coauthors of The DevOps Handbook along with Gene Kim, Jez Humble, and Nicole Forsgren, PhD.
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[00:00] Intro
[01:18] What’s new and improved in the second edition of the DevOps handbook
[03:56] Meet Patrick DeBois
[10:35] How faster technology made ideas like DevOps possible
[18:11] The myths and inefficiencies of team autonomy
[20:04] What the first DevOps days were like
[27:59] Different opinions between the dev community and ops community
[30:49] Mob programming and the future of collaboration
[39:31] Two surprising things Patrick learned about DevOps
[47:20] Patrick DeBois’ favorite DevOps patterns
[51:28] How fear of not delivering on time can mask technical errors
[59:45] What Patrick DeBois is working on these days
[1:04:38] What was expanded in the second edition of the DevOps handbook
[1:06:30] How Gene Kim entered the DevOps world.
[1:07:38] Meet John Willis
[1:10:42] Why the DevOps movement took off
[1:16:00] Mastering production disasters
[1:23:32] The birth of the DevOps Days conference
[1:37:37] Feelings of belonging and connection in a conference
[1:41:29] A few clarifications
[1:49:32] Two of the greatest DevOps open spaces
[1:52:40] The difference between variety and variation (the cost of knowledge work).
[2:07:12] Why you should want more stoppages in your production line
[2:10:16] John Willis’ two favorite DevOps case studies
[2:18:55] Outro
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