"It was such a snap moment. In the same way that you're like, oh, my god, my churching led to my needing to please everybody," she says. "And isn't it crazy how vulnerable we are? How much everything gets soaked into or into our new get?" 'I'm forty-three years old, for crying out loud,' she adds with a laugh.'That model made me think that all partners s, all wives are when they're not whith theire husbands being like, what a pain in the neck, or whatever.'

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