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I know a British OBE or who I took a class from, who, who is very much of the opinion he really doesn't think anything is leaving your body. And it's just your, your remotely perceiving another location, but we will be talking about OBEs in the future. And as long as you have OBEers saying, you know, nothing really dangerous happens here. And I don't see a reason why one would say this cannot be investigated. But Tristan McDonald writes on Facebook, this is one of the most thought provoking episodes the podcast has produced. And that's high praise considering the quality of the previous episodes. I think there might be a connection to angels here because they are incorporeal. They move between locations instantaneously by just focusing their thoughts elsewhere. Because the human soul is likewise immaterial by nature. Maybe that explains by location, which would thus be a natural phenomenon. If we can, like remote viewers, somehow focus our minds off our bodies and somewhere else. Maybe that can allow our spirits to travel elsewhere. This would require us to actually focus on the place instead of some imagined representation of it, since the imagination, unlike the intellect, is a bodily faculty, according to Thomism. And if our mind stays focused on the body as it is by default, it stays in that location. I'm not sure exactly how that would work since we tend to conflate thinking about a place with imagining it. Anyway, fascinating episode. So thank you. And yes, there is a similarity to how angels move and to remote viewing. If the intellectual soul left the body, of course, it would die since it's what's keeping it alive. So if anything leaves the body, it wouldn't be the intellectual soul. However, as mentioned, a lot of OBE researchers don't think that anything leaves the body and we'll be talking about that more in a future episode. Catherine M writes via email. I listened to the episode on by location, and you talked about how all of our soul is present in every part of our bodies. When someone loses a limb, they can they can experience phantom pain, which doctors originally thought was psychological. Later, they found that it does cause true pain. So could phantom pain be due to the fact that a limb, which has your soul encompassing it is not there. Thank you for helping me out. It's an interesting speculation. The standard theological opinion would be that the soul does not extend beyond the body. And so it would not be present in a phantom limb.