The Importance of a Transition to Renewable Energy

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Our wealth and their poverty are not coincidental. They're linked. So, global South countries have been saying for years, you all in the rich global North need to help us. You can't just demand that we make a sudden conversion to renewable energy after you spent a century and a half building your wealth on fossil fuels. And it completely ignores a couple of really key things. One is that global North countries could absolutely and should absolutely subsidize a transition for countries in the global South. That's not a foregone conclusion. It's almost being completely ignored that renewables don't have to be a costly transition for them.

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Reported by Nita Roshita, with recording and production help from Hilman Handoni. Mixed by host John Biewen. Interviews with Bondan Kanumoyoso, Yayat Supriatna, Selamet Daroyni, Amalia Syafruddin, and others.

The series editor is Cheryl Devall. Music in this episode by Lil Haydn, Kim Carroll, Chris Westlake, Lesley Barber, and Fabian Almazan. Music consulting by Joe Augustine of Narrative Music.