i was discussing this with some colleagues when i taught at princeton. They were good liberals, believing in self making self. And they thought that unless people were choosing more or less on the basis of a coin flip, whether or not they would re enter the homage community, that they weren't actually exercising freedom. hyk hk himself had a more sophisticated understanding of this,. because he understood and he broke down what he saw as a kind of a problematic form of liberalism, which he called french liberalism.
Political Scientist and author Patrick Deneen of the University of Notre Dame talks about his book Why Liberalism Failed with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. By liberalism, Deneen means the modern enterprise--the push for self-actualization free of the constraints of tradition, family, and religion that typifies modern culture. He argues that both the left and the right have empowered the state and reduced liberty. He argues for a smaller, more local, more artisanal economy and a return to the virtues of self-control and self-mastery.