Keith Perhac and I recorded our 3rd podcast episode with special guest Brennan Dunn. Listen to it (or read the transcript) for:
- why you should increase your freelancing rate
- how to discuss your value with your clients such that they’re happy to pay your increased rates
- how to scale to a multi-employee consultancy, without being bankrupted by poorly timed receivables
- three stories from successful consultants on three very different trajectories in their businesses
- how you can use drip email to sell more product (and consulting gigs, too)
- a bit about the business of selling info-products: pricing anchors, marketing tactics, list building, and more
If You Want To Listen To It
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Transcript: Running a Consulting Business, With Brennan Dunn
Patrick McKenzie: Hi everybody. My name is Patrick McKenzie, perhaps better known as patio11 on the Internet. This is the, I think, third episode of the Kalzumeus podcast, with my buddy, Keith Perhac.
Keith Perhac: Hello.
Patrick: And our special guest, Brennan Dunn, of Planscope and “Double Your Freelancing Rate.”
Keith: Woo!
Brennan Dunn: Hey there.
Keith: That was our live studio audience. Last time, we had a theme song. But I don’t know. Do we have a theme song this time as well?
Patrick: I think we are totally theme‑song‑less.
Keith: OK.
Patrick: This is still a third‑rate podcast.
So, Brennan, recently you had a product launch. Why don’t you tell us a little bit about that, and we’ll segue into the discussion about it.
Brennan: Absolutely. So, for the last few months, I’m been thinking about putting together an info product, specifically one that is targeting, really, a passion point of mine, which is freelancers who undercharge for their services.
It’s something that really came from my own experience. For way too many years, I charged dramatically less than what I was worth, and only recently have I fixed that. And since I’ve fixed that, not only has my income gone up, but the caliber of client that I work with has gone up also.
And I really wanted to just not only spill the beans as to how I got there but also back it with pricing research that I’ve done. So I’ve done a lot of reading of really executive‑level books on the science of pricing and really targeting factories and massive companies that produce products, and I wanted to find a way to distill that into something consumable for an independent service provider.
So I took that knowledge. I took my background. I interviewed, I think, six or seven what I deem “premium” freelancers, people who either charge a lot or have, really, a very good business around themselves. They’re not just developers. They’re not just designers. They’re true businesspeople. I condensed that into a book that...
For the full transcript see here.
