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Sam sanders is a retired methodist minister s reverend. He practised in four churches in new york city for forty years. A woman told him that her husband raped their daughter, and the daughter became pregnant. And did i now where she could her daughter get an aportion? And i didn't. E i didn't know. I couldn't help her. Into it from vulture, new episodes every thursday.

In 1967, a very unlikely group of individuals gathered to quietly break the law and help facilitate abortions. They established a phone number. When you called it, a recording of a woman's voice would tell you what to do next.

Who was behind this number? The Clergy Consultation Service, an underground network of ministers and rabbis who wanted to help people access safe abortions in a time before it was legal. We first aired our conversations with some of them in 2017. And after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade earlier this year, we decided to call some of them back.

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