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Rick Rubin in Conversation with Malcolm Gladwell

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

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The Leaning Power of Pizza

We get hung up on the idea of perfection. When really what we're looking for is something with emotion in it, something with humanity in it. So we can use the example of the leaning power of pizza. At the time that it was made, it was a mistake. Now it's one of the most visited buildings in the world. And it's visited purely because of the mistake. We collect old Persian rugs that were handmade and had been lived in. Whereas you can buy a new machine made rug now that's more perfect than that. But it doesn't have the same humanity in It. Can you think about a project you've worked on that has beautiful and authentic in precisely

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