What Does It Mean to Not Be Running Like a Well-Owned Machine?

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Craig Smith: Product and engineering are different. He says when it's not working, not functioning optimally, oftentimes there's this unicorn project that the org has been trying to do for two years or five years. "Your reward for running the pie eating contest is more pie," one of his co-founders at Crunchy Data said.

Craig Kerstiens joins us for a chat on decalcifying engineering teams, why you need to get your teams to ship more, and finding A-Players. Craig runs product and engineering at Crunchy Data and has been incredibly influential in the Postgres community.

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