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Turkey's earthquake and China's balloon

The Naked Scientists Podcast

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Is It a Passion or an Obsession?

"When we look at ciphers, it's kind of a passion and an obsession. When we see a cipher, the moment the cipher is laid in front of us, then literally we cannot go to sleep until we solve it," he says. "We could not believe our luck ... We were very much convinced that this is from Mary Queen of Scots."

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