Punita says if one has reached this level of ivake, won't he or she be choicelessly enlightened at some point? The limit of vivak ultimately is the discernment between eternal non eternal. We wakeer, but that's final. That's enlightenment. It results in enlightenment. But we must start at whatever level of te vake we have. Rabirbassays with the opani shuts there at the time. Onsicators time. Ah, what is nesicaters? Time to think about it. According to traditional knowledge, the penishuts waters are timeless. So isn't it important for an educator to be thee? No, the