The Smart Nationalist Is Not Like a Chest Thump

The smart nationalist is not like a chest thump, you know, America F. But it's somebody who thinks about diplomacy and alliances and coalitions so that they advance their own self interest. The whole point is empathy and understanding where the other guys point of view is. And maybe you can give on X and Y and Z and you come out to a win, win. It's not always obvious how to do it. I am a fan of when you have involuntary centralization, then we need decentralization. Yet it is like the V three and the thing I was talking about right? How can you get to a win?