I think Douglas Murray is one of the most insightful public commentators that this country's produced in quite some time. I run a kind of alt media website called the daily skeptic was lockdown skeptics and we've had a number of problems with censorship. We were closed by PayPal about a month ago. They eventually changed their minds, but for and it looked as though they did that because they thought we were guilty of spreading misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccines. The point of trigonometry is to explore difficult issues. And I think the moment we start doing that, I don't think the people in this room would be in this room. So we cannot sell out to that.

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