The Doc Rivers 2008 Celtics starting five still hasn't lost the playoff series. The west is really good and even if you don't have huge amount of faith in all of these teams being like great 55 win teams they're all gonna be good to be a good team four and seven. If Zion comes back and he's healthy and motivated and you know in shape that's gonna be another team they're gonna have to deal with. It just feels like one of the wild cards that's simmering but we'll see it's late July lots can happenall my own. Omiangu Suuk read all this stuff at ESPN.com on the Clippers with a little Rams coverage this week Om thank