
240: The Beauty of Conflict with CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke
Pivot with Jenny Blake
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The Importance of Witnessing in Conflict
"I hold you as able and I want to listen to you is the best I can do, not make myself horribly wrong," she says. "The statement I am horrible ends up making it about me instead of them anyway." Oprah's 2020 vision calls for holding each other in positive regard when interviews are over. In any kind of conflict too often we as a culture want to fix things, make it right - that gets us into trouble.
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