In the same way that i get frustrated with materialists who say, when you see red, that just is this combination of brain states, or something like that. To start talking to me about conscious electrons doesn't do that either. And so it's true, the solution just is, he anto ers both. They actually have zero commitment to any, like, a universalist sort of consciousness. It may be as a little more satisfying to me, and that i am uncomfortable at there being any logical contradiction to begin with. But it seems like, in some ways, i would rather sit with the discomfort of knowing that something fascinatingly experiential arises out of non experient