I think I was a really good reporter, you know, and I mean, that's really, I was a beat reporter for many years. So I'm able to say things about things because I reported on them for years. And so it gives it a, you have to really know your stuff. Expertise is critically important in whatever you're doing. When you're interviewing people, you tend to not script the conversation,. And just sort of let it go. Have you found the difference of interviewing people in person versus remote? Like do you get more out of people?

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