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740 - Crank About Creeping feat. Ben Terris (6/12/23)

Chapo Trap House

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The Fork in the Road

With Sean, I would have to guess that at some point, there was like maybe not entirely, but like some England, some desire to affect things positively. But it's, I don't know, you see people slowly morph. That's the case of someone instantly getting involved with all the bullshit. For most people, how do you reckon with losing? And for a lot of people who got into politics with Bernie 2016 or Bernie 2020, that proved to be too much for them. The trauma of like losing once about caring about something once and losing made them so crazy that they are, you know, now they're like, "I'm religious now"

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