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Against Nature | Raj Patel & Tina Ngata

The Verso Podcast

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The Bordering of Body, Nation, and Forest

The sea is actually a really live example of this, it's a sort of boundary for the purpose of extraction and boardless. And as an ecological entity, it really defies comprehension almost according to these deep legal boundaries that have been set up. It was also a sacred place was where we carried out our rituals, was also our food basket was a place that fed us. We made children on the ocean and poor children in the ocean as well. So when these things form your identity, that's a completely different way of looking at the world as well.

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