Meditation - Is There Any Manipulation Going On?

Many meditators think there's a state of meditation they're going to get to, and then that will be somehow better than whatever state they are in otherwise. And so a lot of energy goes into sort of manipulating consciousness in particular ways. But the best gesture towards it is disowning it. And letting it go. I had a really interesting podcass with somebody who's coming from teravadan tradition. We talk about the jana states, and, you know, yeastua, certain levels of em of the consciousness has really settled down.