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Why did one of the biggest holdco owners & operators sell his holdco? Bill D’Alessandro talks about what led to the decision to sell all but one of his companies, having to let go of being “the Holdco Guy,” advice for entrepreneurs thinking about operating & owning multiple companies, insights on online marketing, & how he sees AI changing the world forever.

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Bill’s Natural Dog Company https://naturaldog.com/

Acquisitions Anonymous podcast https://www.acquanon.com/ 

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Bill Fills Dead Air Time

4:48 HoldCos: A Mailbox Full of Money?

11:19 Letting Go of the HoldCo

16:14 Hitting Rock Bottom & Losing the Plot

25:01 How to Build a Holdco the Right Way

31:54 From HoldCo to OneCo

34:55 When to Go Fast vs. When to Be Patient

41:30 Don’t Buy a Business That’s Too Small

47:50 Handling Layoffs

52:12 Being Vulnerable: Handling Anxiety & Loss

1:08:26 The Additive Effect of Subtracting 

1:15:12 Lightning Round: Advice for Small Business Owners & Operators

1:16:16 Lightning Round: Hiring

1:16:38 Lightning Round: Marketing Doesn’t Work

1:18:24 Lightning Round: When to Take on Capital

1:19:13 Lightning Round: How to Sell a Company

1:21:14 Lightning Round: How Much Debt is too Much?

1:21:50 Lightning Round: Stop Using Slack

1:23:51 Lightning Round: Cutting Costs While Increasing Quality

1:24:28 Lightning Round: AI is the Singularity

1:32:26 Advice for Your 25-Year-Old Self: Be Deliberate

1:34:28 Why Brent Can’t Sleep: Main Street Summit

EPISODE CREDITS

Produced by David Cover 

Additional editing & mastering by Ryan Lipman

Intro music by David Cover, Andy Freeman, Rhett Johnson, & Andrew Luley

Outro music by Jees Guy

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