Sben Asom: It's so important we to focus on and talk to leaders who are consistently doing that. I think, i think the reason why i think of it as being so important is because if you've been around people who maybe they'vethe they're hoisted into leadership rolls or positions,. Or their bosses somewhere. And even thinking of of tough things happening in the ennepel right now, or whatever, or any business. Some of those, those people in the leadership positions, feel to me like their not taking time to learn to develop as a leader, as a professional. Ryan hawk 12:30 p.m. ET; The Learning Leader Show airs

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