Dylan: A lot of our audience, they are either right on the cusp of making some money with their newsletter or they already are making money. I'm partial to physical events as part of the business model because there's so few people that do it right. If you don't have those aspirations, why are you doing this at all? You have to have those types of aspirations or it's not worth doing. Dylan: So anybody who's new listening to this besides the business model that I talk about, we're talking specifically through some kind of an email revenue in a different way.

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