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The Shifting Role of Religion vs. Faith with Diana Butler Bass

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

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You're a Student of Religion. You Pay Attention Culture

i kind of was lonely cause there weren't these other, you knowe ways of gettingat information. So the library was my friend. And then i did find friends in another place, and that was this really quirky, very progressive episcopal church That was living in santa barbara, california. What i discovered was remarkable. He was actually gay. And it was 19 93, and he was the first ever out gay person to be a minister in all of the ep Episcopal church in southern California. Well, i mean, so you talk about something thats changed a lot, ye those roots are hard to pull up the they're pretty firmly in there.

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