The University of California, Berkeley

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In those days, berkeley was not a liberal city that became more liberal. In about a year with the confluence of all these lefty professors from back east, ideas kind of just beginning to brew in the youth movement. And so my childhood, my infancy, everything was just imbibing the revolution. i didn't think about it as being abnormal. There'd be plenty of times wand the city got occupied twice by troops.And mario savio, it's really interesting to me, because he gave this great speech on top of a car in the middle of the sprall plaza. That was a speech about stopping universities from preventing students from having free speech.

Caitlin Flanagan, a staff writer at The Atlantic, is one of America's most incisive essayists. In her articles about a wide range of topics including modern motherhood, the politics of higher education, and the state of the abortion debate, she skewers consensus views with her trademark wit.

In this week’s conversation, Caitlin Flanagan and Yascha Mounk discuss her coming-of-age in 1960s Berkeley, the evolution of freedom of speech, and whether America has a future.

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