The Importance of Being Female

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"I always worry I'm gonna die of some hideous skin cancer that takes over like the back of my neck and I can't see it," she says. "How attractive you are becomes very very irrelevant when you've been married for 20 something years now 22 yearslike that big seriously how attractive you are become very very irrelevant" She adds: "It's not even funny that it's really it's good dark but it's quite a bit easy."

Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.

This week Katherine chats to Angela Barnes, podcaster, comedian and regular panel guest on Mock The Week (and much more!).

Angela Barnes has zero tolerance for anyone reassuring her that she's pretty - it talks over her lived experience, and does nothing to change her self-perception. Here, she discusses living with Persistent Depressive Disorder, which has made her whole life feel like the drizzly English climate, but which has also made her more able than most to endure the hard-knocks life of a stand-up comedian.

A very cheerful chat which always zeroes in on the important points with lazer focus, picking up on where Angela is in the greater pandemic situation, working with her PDD, building daily frameworks, having a comedy tribe which normalizes certain behaviours and actions, fear of rejection, CBT, entitlement, TV, the perils and - well, perils of social media, and the notion of beauty on a grand scale.

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